Quoting Ham Priday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Anthony says to Platt -- > > > > Firstly, you have (yet again) put that weasel word "individual" > > in the phrase "a far cry from the MOQ goal of a morality based > > on intellectual principles of individual freedom". However, part > > of the remit in the MOQ (being a Zen Buddhist derived philosophy) > > is to remind us that the concept of "individual" is a convenient fiction > > that needs to be recognized as such to reduce karmic suffering. > > It should therefore be avoided in the context of the MOQ and > > used only with qualification. > > I take exception to your statement that "individual" is a "weasel word" -- a > "convenient fiction" -- particularly in the context of Freedom. This > assertion demonstrates once again the failure of Pirsig's philosophy to > recognize the individuality of human experience, which is fundamental to a > metaphysical understanding of existence. By deferring to the Buddhist > notion of karma to "explain away" the individual, you've brought my > differences with Eastern mysticism into sharp focus.
Somehow I missed Ant's message to me that you quoted above. But lest you get the wrong idea from him about Pirsig's "failure to recognize the individuality of human experience" let me reassure that he does nothing of the sort, referring to the "individual" many times in his writings that describes the MOQ, such as: "All these battles between patterns of evolution go on within suffering individuals like Lila." (Lila, 29) and "Shamans on the other hand are arrant individualists." (Lila, 9) and "The MOQ sas it (the individual)is a collection of static patterns capable of apprehending Dynamic Quality." (Note 130, LC) (parens added) Best, Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
