Hi Ant, Micah, That should be interesting ... I took Micah's response to be ironic - leaping from the sublime to the ridiculous (mimicking the extremism already injected into this thread by, er, others) ?
But I could be wrong :-) Ian On 8/28/07, Ant McWatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Micah, > > I think you'd need to spell out your argument a bit more fully here i.e. how > the denial of the "individual" entails a support of slavery. > > Interesting comment though, > > Best wishes, > > Anthony > > > Micah stated August 27th 2007: > > Ant, > > I am repulsed by your attempt to deny the individual, thereby supporting > slavery. > > Micah > > > Original Message from Ant August 25th: > > Platt, > > Firstly, you have (yet again) put that weasel word "individual" in the > phrase "a far cry from the MOQ goal of a morality based on intellectual > principles of individual freedom". However, part of the remit in the MOQ > (being a Zen Buddhist derived philosophy) is to remind us that the concept > of "individual" is a convenient fiction that needs to be recognised as such > to reduce karmic suffering. It should therefore be avoided in the context > of the MOQ and used only with qualification. See Steve Hagen's 1997 book > "Buddhism Made Simple" for more details (which, of course, is the book > described by Pirsig as being the closest Buddhist text in outlook to the > MOQ). > > Secondly, as a pragmatic philosophy, the MOQ implies that multi-culturalism > and > affirmative action will be necessary in a given society until the colour of > one's skin becomes meaningless at the social level. For instance, having > recruitment policies that encourage minorities to apply to social level > services such as the police to ensure that the latter accurately reflect (in > their staff composition) the actual composition of minorities in a > community. It's a bit simple-minded to think that these type of > intellectually guided corrections are racist in themselves as such policies > are correcting an imbalance where intellectuals and others are not treating > criminals equally, in the first place, because of the suspicion of existing > institutional racism in such services as the police and judiciary (for > instance, see the illustration below of the Rodney King case below). > > > "I think I figured out why the L.A. riots occurred. Did you guys see these > cops testifying, man? Did these guys have balls or what, man? These guys > carry their balls in a wheelbarrow, man. ''Scuse me, 'scuse me. Man with big > balls is here to testify.' > > 'Place your right testicle on the bible.' BOOOM! > > (This guy [is] Officer Coon [of the LAPD] …is life too fucking weird or > what?) > > Officer Coon looks in the camera and actually says: 'Oh, that Rodney King > beating tape, it's all in how you look at it.' > > The courtroom murmurs: 'Jesus, what balls. I've never seen balls of this > magnitude. He must have a specially fitted uniform in which to place these > large testicles.' 'That's incredible. All in how you look at it, Officer > Coon?' > > 'That's right. It's how you look at the tape.' > > 'Well would you care to tell the court how you're looking at that?' > > 'Yeah, okay, sure. It's how you look at it. For instance, if you play it > backwards, you see us help King up and send him on his way.'" > > Platt's fellow Talk Radio parrots on the jury: > > "Mmm . . . not guilty." > > Court usher: > > "'Scuse me, 'scuse me. Man with big balls has just been acquitted." > > > Bill Hicks on "Arizona Bay" > > www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCxpSmVQIWU > > > > . > > _________________________________________________________________ > The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
