[SA]
Ron, you keep stating the MoQ fits well with SOM, but then I see
the s/o terminology having too many hang-ups that need explained over
and over again in order to get passed what already exists as an SOM
static pattern that cultivates certain perspectives.
These already existing static patterns of the SOM perspective creates or
channels certain perspectives that need weeded out and clarified over
and over again to make a certain point. The MoQ by-passes these SOM
static patterns with a whole other perspective that, yes SOM can lead to
an MOQ understanding (Pirsig was immersed in an SOM static pattern
before he came upon another way to clarify his perspective). Yet, once
at the MoQ understanding, the old SOM hang-ups disappear, and we don't
need to exhaustively explain oneself over and over again.
So, the already existing static patterns need a new voice, a new
way to explain and reassure that what one values as best is part of much
larger static pattern that is leading to these perspectives of ours
without all the hang-ups so what might seem complicated and needs a lot
of dialogue (as this post), but shortens the explanation with precision,
thus, the negative hang-ups can be by-passed and a better way of
explaining reality can provide a clearer view.
[Ron]
Language has much to do with it, perhaps the biggest obsticle, for me
that is, is writing. If you and
I were were discussing this over some tea, I think the difficulty would
be lessened considerably.
My wife tells me I have difficulty expressing ideas clearly and
understandably and often I am
quiet and soft spoken so as it is.
Much communication is tranfered via body language and inflection, a
certain intimacy with ideas
arises when verbal communication is used.
I get what you are saying. I agree. Many native languages
utilize a sort of word sentence, sentences are'nt broken up into nouns
and verbs and such they
sort of run together to form a single idea or one long word to describe
something. Most are not
associated with any sort of codified symbols either, language being
mostly an oral tradition.
Incidentally, Bodivar sent me an offlist e-mail that encapsulates what
my concern is, because he sent it offlist I recon he would like it to
stay that way.
I will forward it to you and maybe my point will become clearer. He is a
much better writer
and he has been at this longer than I.
-Ron
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