Ant was covering much of what you are saying in recent posts. He
hasn't just jumped in, but anyways... Your exactly right! We do shape
our pre-intellectual values with static patterns. What we incorporate
pre-intellectually is influenced by intellectual patterns (ex. what we
already know), social patterns (ex. this culture as opposed to
constantly hunting we go to the store), biological patterns (ex. I don't
see or sense heat as a snake does), and inorganic patterns (ex. I'm not
the sun).
Now, how do you learn? Where does it come from? Is there creativity?
All of what you said above, I believe, doesn't mention or answer any of
these questions, the topics above just cover that what we know already
dictates our experience, thus, we don't learn anything new, correct?
blue evening,
SA
[Ron]
Hello SA,
Just seems people are more eager to get into a poo slinging contest than
rationally discuss
a subject, maybe I'm just jealous of the attention. Regargless, how do
we learn?, I feel our minds
shape sense data not create it, That's why I feel there must be an out
there to sense, whatever it may be,
external and internal senses combine in the brain to shape a changing
but continuous experience
relationally based in the phenomena being sensed. As you say, there is
no logical way
experience is entirely created from the mind but distinction is embeded
deeper than cultural
convention. I just think it is a fallacy to believe we experience
undifferentiated experience
before cultural conventions, I think it is more logical to believe that
cultural and other
conventions of thought emerge from baser distiction of relational
objects.
I really think we not can drop it, we can quiet it through meditation,
balance it,
and become aware of it through the intellection of Quality, this is why
I like
Bo's idea of SOLAQI emerging from Quality awareness it's a pragmatic
approach to
the MOQ. and an accurate depiction of how it can be used in regard to
scientific inquiry.
I find there is a gap between the concept of MOQ and the scientific
employment of it.
SOLAQI seems to bridge that gap as far as I can tell.
I think mathmatics and analytical logic are responsible for the
exclusivness of absolutes
in western thinking that exaggerates dualism. These concepts, more than
any, are at the
root of SOM thinking and are the defining elements of it. It gives the
illusion that
reality is finite, measurable and ultimately knowable leaning heavily on
the concept
of objective knowledge .
Thanks for listening SA
cool crisp morning
Ron
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