[Arlo had said]
Yes. I am the figment of my own imagination. I create
myself out of value, and then convince myself I
preceded that value, that is the illusion.
[Platt]
Holy mackerel, Arlo. That's one for the books. If you
weren't yourself
prior to the creation of yourself, who did the
creating?
[Arlo]
Its derived from a Zen Koan. It points to the idea
that asking if the self is "real" or "illusion" is, as
both Ant and Dan (and SA and Ron, if I'm not
mistaken) have suggested that this is a "mu" question.
And, it points to the underlying paradox that is the
core of our ANY intellectual description of
experience.
Thanks, Arlo, I was looking for a better
explanation of pragmatic value and philosophic value.
Maybe another thread on pragmatic value and
philosophic value could help with the underlying
static perspective and dynamic perspective that I
believe somehow started this whole illusion v. real
buisness. At least it might get us into something
more intellectual and dynamic, maybe?
Yes, asking if the self is "real" or "illusion"
is a mu question. Thanks what I've been trying to get
at, mainly with Platt here the past couple days.
SA
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