> [SA previously]
>      What do you think Krimel?
 
> [Krimel]
> I think the important lessons of Zen take seconds to
> learn and years to
> appreciate. I personally don't find much use in its
> practice. It is Buddhism
> and Tao filtered through Shinto. I am content with
> Tao.


     What about Chan?  Since your interested in
Daoism, your answer might be that Chan is Buddhism
filtered through Daoism {and I would add Confucianism
(the relational aspects and 'ren' the character
emphasis, in other words, how one is, how one relates
to others and ones ability to do so in a positively
powerful way)}.  I respect this answer, and it would
help me understand what 'schools' are emphasized in
your discussions.
     Also, what does Daoism say about moral patterns? 
That was why I still find the levels significant.  The
levels are explicit about morals.
     I did not find anything that jumped out at me in
which I disagreed with in the rest of your post.  It
was quite detailed and informative in the relational
patterning.  It was excellent.  Thanks.  

woods,
SA


      
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