[Krimel] I confuse him often with the guy and his talking horse... http://www.integralworld.net/index.html?chamberlain2.html
An update on Wilber's efforts to weasel word his way out of this comment made in 2005: "Folks, give me a break on this one... I know evolutionary theory inside out, including the works of Dawkins et al." "Instead of a religious preacher like Dawkins, start with something like Michael Behe's Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution. And then guess what? Neo-Darwinian theory can't explain shit. Deal with it." ----------------------------------------------- Krimel said: In a recent post I got sneered at as a reductionist by dmb. I think his point is well taken and illustrates something fundamental. By rejecting reductionism dmb hopes to hold the door open for some sort of top down organization system. He can correct me if I am wrong here but this definitely seems to be on tactic taken by one of his heroes Ken Wilbur. ...According to this kind of view we see the panoply of nature spread before us as a kind of evaporation of this higher power spreading out in the material world. This results in a view of the MoQ that has Quality as some kind of perfection or source that breaks apart to yield the world of appearances. dmb says: Top down organization? A perfect source breaks apart? Huh? That doesn't even ring a bell, let alone represent my view of anything. Please consider yourself corrected. The man's name is Wilber, not Wilbur, by the way. And I'm pretty sure evolution works from the ground up for him as well. _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i'm Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
