Krim, Gav, Krim you quoted me here .. "Certainly there is interaction and higher levels can and do impact lower levels, a point taken up by Ian and occasionally Arlo. But no higher level pattern can materially disrupt the lower level patterns it depends upon without drastic consequences."
And then took exception to Gav's tetralemma version of both and neither, top down and bottom-up. Gav is right. The causation is in both directions (even in forward time - whatever that is) Causation is in fact a pretty limited metaphor here - I prefer Paul (Turrner)'s "dependent arising". Of course higher patterns CAN disrupt lower patterns, the point is it is BETTER if they don't do this without caution for the consequences. (This principle is called "hygiene" in some circles. To take a literal example ... having the rest-rooms cleaned in your place of work has no value to your occupation, but has huge negative value if allowed to not do happen.) Ian Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
