Thanks Margaret, I just ordered the book. - Marsha
At 11:18 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: >marsha, steve, SA > > > > > It's a constant > > > struggle to wipe away what one thinks and see > > > directly. > > > >There is a WONDERFUL biography about the contemporary artist, Robert Irwin >from >California called: > >"Seeing is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One Sees" > >(I put the link and some of the reviews below) > >This book changed my way of thinking about A LOT of things. > >When you read the review below - in my mind - don't skip the >first chapter. The stuff about the way he thinks about >cleaning his engine and the beauty of the car is WONDERFUL >absolutely like ZMM - he 'might' even reference ZMM in the >book - I can't remember..but even if it's not directly referred >to - it's obvious there is a connection. > >http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Forgetting-Name-Thing-Sees/dp/0520049209 > > >By Simone Federman "Theatre Director/Professor" (New York,New York) - >See all my reviews > >I picked up this book in 1984 because it was on a reading list for an Art >History class I was taking at Oberlin College. I stayed up all night in the >library that night. I couldn't put it down. My mind has never been the same. > >I still often think of it,tell stories from it and give it as a gift. I >always say "skip the first chapter-it gets much better." If I remember >right, the book begins with a description of Irwin's perfectionism when >cleaning the engine of his car. I figure that will bore my friends. > >I tell my students about Irwin's many years attempt to make the perfect >line, to his wife's chagrin and his painting the back side of his paintings >because it matters to him. They like the story of the riots that occured in >South America due to the disorientation of his discs-concave and convex-the >viewers couldn't tell where the wall started and the disc stopped. I have >given the book as a graduation present. > >I thought about this book at the mechanic the other day. My engine is very, >very dirty. >---------------------- > >By "bluthman" (Stanford, CA United States) - See all my reviews >This was an amazing read. Not only did it open my eyes to the concept of >abstract art, but it opened my eyes to a different way of thinking. I highly >recommend this book. > >------------------------ > >Margaret > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Heather Perella > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 7:44 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [MD] Painting > > > > > > > > [Marsha] > > > The first thing I learned when trying to draw or > > > paint was how > > > insidiously my mind would want to overlay what it > > > thought it knew > > > onto the seeing experience. The mind thinks 'a tree > > > is green', > > > therefore a tree is seen and painted green. In > > > fact, a tree is green > > > AND a multitude of non-green colors. The mind > > > distorts experience by > > > overlaying previous patterns onto emerging patterns. > > > It's a constant > > > struggle to wipe away what one thinks and see > > > directly. > > > > > > > > Marsha this is how I experience intellect. My > > intellect will automatically think, but the > > intellectual experience for me is not about the > > thinking, the thoughts, and the gains of intellect. > > That's a half finished job of intellect. The finished > > job of intellect is "to wipe away what one thinks and > > see directly". This latter is what I find the > > intellect doing. Not gaining thoughts and insights, > > but losing them, thus, gaining more than myself, more > > than what I think. This is what I find intellect > > doing when relating to dynamic quality. This is what > > intellect does when following the code of art. Each > > level peeks morally when in direct experience with > > primary reality. > > > > > > thanks. > > > > SA > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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