Hi Platt:

>[Platt]
>> > What other specific duties to other individuals do you find in the  
>> > moral
>> > structure set forth in the MOQ?
>
>[Steve] 
>> Society needs to maintain itself and intellect needs to support  
>> society since it's existence depends on society. I think the MOQ then 
>> suggests that we have to educate people to be able to perpetuate and 
>> contribute to society since social roles require education. Also,  societies
>> evolved because they helped biological man survive.  Stronger societies then
>> do a better job than weaker societies at  serving people's biological needs,
>> so a strong MOQ case can be made  that it is in society's interest to have
>> structures that increase the  health of it's members.

Platt:
>I agree, with the caveat about Dynamic Quality mentioned above. National 
>government programs, whether about education or health, have not 
>established and enviable record of success when compared to the private 
>sector.  But, the private sector also has shortcomings in not serving the 
>needs of all citizens. Perhaps it is up to you and I others in this group 
>to devise a Dynamic system that will address these problems. Surely there 
>is as much brainpower here as in any other gathering.  

Steve:
It seems that we have agreement that a society needs to provide for the 
security, education, and health of its members. Societies can be judged based 
on how well they do these things as well as their openness to dynamic 
improvement and support of the evolution of the intellectual level.

Like you, I don't assume that these responsibilities of society equate to 
responsibilities of government. (Note that these responsibilities of society  
translate into the rights of its citizens and then back into duties of citizens 
to use intellect to support social patterns that provide for these things.) 
These responsibilities of society are also those of parents to children, 
husbands and wives to one another, and probably every other social role we can 
think of.

Though the two groups tend to vilify one another, the differences between 
liberals and conservative are partly if not largely differences in how they see 
the role of government in performing these social responsibilities rather than 
whether these are indeed the responsibilities of societies.

Both sides should give the other side credit for seeking to create a better 
society based on the these responsibilities.

What do you think?
Steve





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