Hi Jorge,
> >From pholden, Jan. 3rd: > > "Excellent. You have nailed the problem with Western culture. The immoral > S/O pattern of thinking is sowing the seeds of our own destruction. > Thanks for spelling > out the problem so clearly and succinctly." > > Platt: Much obliged. I was puzzled though by you writing: "the immoral > S/O pattern of thinking". If you acknowledge it as a problem with Western > culture, how could it be immoral? I'd be thankful if you'd care to > elaborate; first time I hear such a proposition; curiosity aroused. S/O is immoral because it doesn't acknowledge the existence of universal moral values,.as Pirsig explains: "But having said this, the Metaphysics of Quality goes on to say that science, the intellectual pattern that bas been appointed to take over society, has a defect in it. The defect is that subject-object science has no provision for morals.Subject-object science is only concerned with facts. Morals have no objective reality. You can look through a microscope or telescope or oscilloscope for the rest of your life and you will never find a single moral. There aren't any there. They are all in your head. They exist only in your imagination. "From the perspective of a subject-object science, the world is a completely purposeless, valueless place. There is no point in anything. Nothing is right and nothing is wrong. Everything just functions, like machinery. There is nothing morally wrong with being lazy, nothing morally wrong with lying, with theft, with suicide, with murder, with genocide. There is nothing morally wrong because there are no morals, just functions. "Now that intellect was in command of society for the first time in history, was this the intellectual pattern it was going to run society with?" (Lila, 22) The problem with Western culture is "Nothing is right and nothing is wrong." You see it most prominently in the philosophy dominating the academic elite -- relativism and its sister, multiculturism. Hope this answers you question. Thanks for asking. Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
