Quoting Steven Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Platt:
> >Study happiness and suffering scientifically? I have no idea what that 
> >means, but it has a Orwellian flavor. After all, Pirsig makes the point
> >repeatedly that the trouble with science is that it ethically it has 
> >nothing to offer. 
> 
> He is criticizing SOM science. Pirsig redifines science as studying stable
> patterns of value. In that case, only DQ can't be studied scientifically.

Hi Steve,

Pirsig redefines science as the study of social and intellectual patterns of
value? That's news to me. Can you cite a reference? 
 
> Why can't behaviors or attitudes that lead to happiness or suffering be 
> studied?

You can study whatever you want. In fact, you can find a study to back up most
anything you want to believe. The question is, how do you know when the study
is valid? Lots of studies showed eugenics would bring happiness to humanity.

Regards,
Platt





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