At 11:50 AM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha,
>
> >I did not write 'screw the intellectual level.' Maybe I should have
> >written screw Sam Harris's reasoning. For while I do think Sam
> >rocks, I do not agree with his "reasoning" not to call oneself an
> >atheist. But in some way I did mean screw reasoning. AS IF reason
> >can only bring you to one conclusion??? Yours.
>
>Steve:
>I don't know how you ever got that idea. I even defended you saying
>that you probably didn't mean it to be taken the way Ron took it.
Steve,
Sorry, I sent my post before I read the yours.
>I did think that it was a lame response to say "screw reason" rather
>than give your reasons for disagreeing with Sam Harris' arguments
>against accepting the label.
I did give my reason for calling myself an atheist. I could add I
call myself an atheist to move the numbers, and shift the
middle. Also to be an example of an atheist that doesn't eat babies
or purposefully trip old ladies.
>I have mixed feelings on the issue myself and was sincerely
>interested in what you thought. As I said, the speech I posted was
>very contraversial in the atheist community. Most people don't agree
>with him and he admits that he could be wrong. maybe we do need a
>label right now to move forward to a time where such a label is as
>crazy as calling yourself a non-Zues-worshipper.
And I also think the reason-thing is over-emphasized. It does have
its problems and let's remember:
While sustaining biological and social patterns
Kill all intellectual patterns.
Kill them completely
And then follow Dynamic Quality
And morality will be served.
(LILA, Chapter 32)
Oh well, I did giggle at Ron's reaction.
Marsha
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