Hi Ham

For me the meaning of experience-quality prior to any notion
of the individual or perceiver is this:

a living experience full of tress and sky and sunshine and animals
and clouds and people and grass, etc is what it is to exist and be alive,
experience-life is not confined to some boundary called a perceiver,
experience only exists when trees and birds and sun's are interacting
with human organisms, the human alone and isolated does not
have experience, experience is what occurs when much more
is going on, experience is a process between organisms and
light and heat and energy and their changes, experience transcends
an isolated perceiver, experience is only possible when suns shine
and birds sing and eyes flash and photons are absorbed, so
experience requires not a perceiver but a cosmos.

David M


> No, I do not.  I suppose that "first" and "last" apply only to a system in
> transition, such as physical existence.  I equate Quality with Value.  And
> value, as I define it, is made aware only to a cognizant entity that 
> stands
> apart from its source or essence.  Thus, a world without awareness is a
> world without value.  For me Quality is meaningless in the absence of  a
> perceiver.
>
> Regards,
> Ham
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