Ham:

Ron seems to feel that either answer is a trade-off.  Apparently he
believes

that inasmuch as we are "slaves to survival" we can never be free.

Ron;
I'd say you have me. We are bound to value, we are slaves to choice.
life demands it or moves on without you. Choosing no choice is a choice.
We are only truly free of value when we pass from this existence
(relatively speaking) this is an assumption of course but a reasonable
one at that.




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