> [Platt] > Typical leftist ploy. You don't like what someone says so you try to > intimidate into silence by a personal attack.
Said originally in response to Krimel, but applicable in spades to the diatribe below. Let us all hope that Arlo feels better now by accusing Ham and me of racism, the last argument by a leftist when all other of his arguments have been lost. Platt > [Arlo] > From one who deploys the Mighty Wurlizter of "collectivist > totalitarianism" and "statist Marxism" at every turn, I suppose you > would know. Nonetheless, Krimel is not engaging in a personal attack, > he is correctly exposing the ugly filth behind the despicable > rhetoric and jargoning that you and Ham use. But just like you did in > the education thread, as soon as that is cast into the light, you > cower away, mutter some bad words about "political correctness" and > try to act like its you who are the "victim" of some horrible personal > attack. > > From bemoaning that you can't use "Obama's middle name" (yet I've > never seen you use McCain's), to decrying political correctness for > not being able say "Obama only gets votes because he is black" (yet > have never answered if it would be wrong, or racist, for someone to > suggest that McCain "only gets votes because he is white"), to > appearing concerned about "black crime" (isn't crime crime?), to your > as yet unanswered remarks about the success of public education in > Japan and Finland "due to their being monocultural societies", to > cheering laws to forcibley deny Muslim women the right to wear > headscarves if they so choose, to my first "encounter" with you on > this list as you championed "the bell curve"... where you answered > mark heyman's statement, "But there is NO scientific support for the > idea, say, that members of any one "race" are less intelligent or > more prone to aggression than members of a different "race" by > supporting "except for the "The Bell Curve", to recent talks on > interracial marriage where you supported the idea that "interracial > marriage" may be behind "the decline of society", to finally the also > unanswered question, what the hell do you wish you could say but feel > "political correctness" prevents you? (calling blacks "niggers"? the > mentally disabled "retards"?) > > I've also followed this "elitism" bullshit with a smile, as one on > hand you hate "elitist perfessers" but on the other rage against > "egalitarianism". Seems "elite" is only a "bad word" when somehow > "white and American" don't end up on the top of the pile. The recent > flak over Obama's comments are so hypocritic, considering these are > the people you call "moochers", and have proposed that they "have > nothing to contribute to the dynamic evolution of society". What if > Obama had said that?!?! You've been quite clear a number of times > that Joe Miner from West Virginny does not hold near the "value" that > Mighty Sam Walton does for society. The riff-raff should cover their > faces with rags when these Captains of Business ride by in their top > hat and gentlemen's cloaks. Indeed, when I described the poverty of > the mining communities my grandfather grew up in, your response was > in paraphrase "if he was too stupid to move, he deserved what he > got". "Let them eat cake", as it were. > > Multiculturalism. I applaud it. Its one of the few good things we've > done since the sixties. What's most sad is that the champions of > individual freedom should be the first in line to respect the customs > and habits of other people. Those "statist totalitarians" are the > ones who you'd think be pushing for cultural conformity and > "monoculturalism", as is precisely what happened under Stalin. > Instead, the freedom fighters demand conformity to the "superior" > white and American culture, counter "multiculturalism" only with the > most perverse elitism and xenophobia we have seen since the days of > McCarthy. > > So, Krimel, on that note we disagree. I do not think we are "past the > hump", its evident to me that elitist nationalism, xenophobia and > ridiculous jargoning pandering to the paranoic fears about "statism", > "collectivism" (whatever that means), and the big bad boogey of > (gasp!) nihilism are what rules the day. I'd wish you prayers that > this were behind us would come true, but it'll be a long time before > we put this disgusting bullshit behind us. > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
