Ron,
All this grammar talk, plainly, has me declare -
I'm lost. I've no clue what all this about. When I
think of grammar, I think of the structure of a
sentence. The meaning that the structure verberates
isn't held in the skeletal structure, but this meaning
aspect of a sentence is the poetic force trying to get
one filling in the gaps of the point on their own
applying that experience to what the words are hinting
to. This is how songs can mean different 'things' to
different people or poems that mention 'self' over and
over again throughout the poem get one thinking about
their own self and soon your overlaying patterns from
your own life with the words opening you up from the
inside out.
SA
P.S. When Pirsig mentioned this good is noun stuff at
the end of Lila, I admittedly had no idea what he
meant, but I did get the gist of it, maybe, due to
noun being a structural term and then I focused on the
quality is really undefined and poetically jumped from
that.
--- Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I like those suggestions Ron.
>
> I've said repeatedly that some of my favourite
> Pirsig writing is on
> lingusitics / etymology, of key quality related
> words (Good, Art/Rta,
> Fair, etc.) and that is at the root of misplaced
> expectations to
> achieve definitional conclusions in our interminable
> philosophical
> debates. (Personally, I find the fact that the
> "conclusions" remain
> circular is a very good sign that circularity is a
> good. The
> frustration is with those that still expect the
> circle to lead
> anywhere except the circle.)
>
> It's all language and all language is metaphors
> (dead or alive) - you
> can approach understanding by using it but never
> arrive at a
> destination called definition.
>
> And what is good ?
> Good is a noun.
> Must ponder that more.
> Ian
>
> Ian,
> Check out this link for the description of noun
> class.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun_class
>
> grammar shapes how we think. I feel that while
> circularity
> shows a certain degree of stability, in this case it
> is the
> effect of this particular linguistic gumption trap.
> This
> discuss group suffers from stuck-ness.
> Clearly Robert Pirsig handed us an incomplete work,
> Clearly this discuss group reached it's high water
> mark
> With the Paul Turner letter and Lila's child. Asking
> All the right questions.
>
> It's time to further the discussion by beginning
> anew
> Right here, on this topic.
> I cordially invite you and anyone else to further
> This thread with your own thoughts.
>
> Much thanks
> -Ron
>
>
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