> [Krimel] > > I would be the last one to say that art and science do not influence each > other. The design of my cell phone is an obvious copy of a Star Trek > communicator both in its form and its function. In fact nearly everything > in > our lives in the modern world is an example of fantasy becoming real.> >
DM: Your comments to me basically rehash your belief that only evolutionary metaphors and forms of understanding have any use. This is a bit of a history is over kind of argument that is just gonna be proved wrong by waiting around a bit. You talk about biology and physics as if these sciences are conceptually static, I am suggesting that chances are, as we always have, we will revisit old concepts to give us ways to deal with new problems and questions as they emerge. Krim: But > this is not to say that anything is possible or that we should take > potentiality to have causal agency. DM: I am not saying that potentials are causally sufficient, but both immaterial and necessary, immaterial in the sense that meant we could not help but come up with some kind of concept for this call it ideas or spirit as its part of our experience, i.e. not to say there would be anything possible if there were nothing material. I am suggesting that something has to be possible before it can be actual yet if it is possible it may not become actual. When the big bang went off horses were not at that time possible, 12 billion years later, when planets, atmosphere, plants, grass, etc were available then horses became possible. Torses also became possible, but they never actually emerged. Torses are like horses but with pink and yellow spots. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
