Krimel:
His whole system of levels is an instructive exercise in how we might apply an understanding of the world around us as SQ and DQ. He uses it in his critique of science, social science and social patterns over the last century. I find each of these analyses individually flawed but taken as a whole they provide a pretty good guide to an approach to seeing the world not so much as I/Thou but as change and stasis. In Lila for example his finger points directly at several really critical points that he obviously appreciates but doesn't fully grasp. His discourse on random access is a particularly important missed point. He fully appreciates the importance of random access and his description of it is about as good as it gets. But he stops well short of what that finger points to. Random access thinking is an entirely new phenomenon. It didn't exist at all two or three centuries ago and even well into the 20th century it was a very primitive business. The use of slips and card catalogs should be familiar to even the oldest of old timers here but computerized use of random access is a qualitative leap in human consciousness. Google is to a library card catalog as... I'm sorry this beggars my capacity to construct analogies. In Pirsig's description of random access he says that a metaphysics of quality would be a metaphysics of randomness. He opens the window stares into the light, points at it and turns away. He is not the only one to do this I have seen James, Russell, Hume and many others do it as well. They see the importance of randomness and chance but regard the task of dealing with it as hopeless and so point and move on. The task is not hopeless and I think Pirsig points The Way. But instead of hopping on board and sailing away he builds a 'head boat' with levels of frou frou and has left you and many others squabbling about where this or that bit of superficial ornamentation out to hang. The video that you obviously either did not watch or did not understand shows the way around this. It shows a better way to see the world and the MoQ in terms of randomness, SQ, DQ and the Tao. But that's enough for now. There's more but I suspect you aren't ready for this much less that. Ron: This is why I raised Topos theory and got quite excited by it, but no One else saw the significance of a mathematical random access model. It links differing fractal sets generating their own unique patterns Yet influencing each other at the same time to result in a whole. A system of systems. But oh well, there are a few things I find of Particular interest that no one else thinks is of any concern. Eh, such is life. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
