At 05:18 PM 5/4/2008, you wrote:
On Saturday 3 May 2008 10:22 AM MarshaV answers SA:
> "...the coincidence of contrary..." :
>paradox
>
>
>
> Since coincidence is true in the above context,
>and the fragility of life grows in the midst of such
>desperate opposites that in true contrast would
>destroy all static patterns from latching whatsoever,
>and it is obvious that a tree grows from seed in this
>climate, in the midst of such paradox, and it is this
>coincidence of contrary that something else works
>allowing this paradoxical climate to thrive here on
>earth and for bonds of atoms to come together on the
>sun. In such paradox it is this coming together that
>evens allows such coincidence that compassion is the
>place holder. It is this relationship in shared
>respect between contraries that allows for this
>coincidence.
>
>SA
>
[MarshaV]
A paradox is that while we may be the direct beneficiaries of
"enlightenment", if this is our only goal, we will not attain it
because we will still have the mind of self-grasping and attachment
to enlightenment itself. We not only need to be completely selfless,
we have to be unattached to our selflessness. This is a most
difficult thing to do.
Another paradox related to the one above is that our happiness is
directly tied to the level we are able to seek happiness and benefit
for others. The more we look for happiness in external "stuff", the
more it will elude us. The more we seek to give happiness to others,
the more we will experience it in our own lives.
http://www.wildmind.org/blogs/on-practice/thurman-interconnectedness-compass
ion
Hi MarshaV and all,
Your words stir up a storm!
Greetings Joe,
I'm afraid I have misled you. While the words
were presented by me in the post. I am not the
author of the two paragraphs. Sometimes,
hopefully not too often I neglect to credit the
rightful author. I collect lots of information
on Buddhism. And in this instance I didn't get
who did write it. I should have used double
quotes, but I was excited about posting it and forgot. Many apologies!!!
I recently posted to SA an acknowledgement that
I have also had an experience with ³a quiet place²! I was reading Maurice
Nicoll (a student of Jung, P.D.Ouspensky, Gurdjieff). His statement was that
in an evolutionary development proposed by esoteric literature, the two last
levels are fully developed and operational levels of consciousness only. I
am unaware of them in me because of my continuous intercourse with the other
levels. If I could quiet my inner noise, I could experience their
manifestations. Stop seeking, empty awareness, experience myself in quiet,
and I will remember myself. I am not an advanced initiate, but it seems
like a practical suggestion.
Joe
It does seem that you are following good
advice. I vacillate between being very
productive and needing lots of quiet. At the
moment it seems I'm hot on the trail of the
useless mental noise. I've seen it come and go,
but where does it come from. How does it
form? Will knowing make a difference? Don't know.
About compassion, I realized a while ago, that as
long as there are people in the world suffering,
any happiness I experience will be short lived.
Thank you for writing,
Marsha
On 5/3/08 10:22 AM, "MarshaV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:20 AM 5/3/2008, you wrote:
>> "...the coincidence of contrary..." :
>> paradox
>>
>>
>>
>> Since coincidence is true in the above context,
>> and the fragility of life grows in the midst of such
>> desperate opposites that in true contrast would
>> destroy all static patterns from latching whatsoever,
>> and it is obvious that a tree grows from seed in this
>> climate, in the midst of such paradox, and it is this
>> coincidence of contrary that something else works
>> allowing this paradoxical climate to thrive here on
>> earth and for bonds of atoms to come together on the
>> sun. In such paradox it is this coming together that
>> evens allows such coincidence that compassion is the
>> place holder. It is this relationship in shared
>> respect between contraries that allows for this
>> coincidence.
>>
>> SA
>>
>
>
>
> A paradox is that while we may be the direct beneficiaries of
> "enlightenment", if this is our only goal, we will not attain it
> because we will still have the mind of self-grasping and attachment
> to enlightenment itself. We not only need to be completely selfless,
> we have to be unattached to our selflessness. This is a most
> difficult thing to do.
>
> Another paradox related to the one above is that our happiness is
> directly tied to the level we are able to seek happiness and benefit
> for others. The more we look for happiness in external "stuff", the
> more it will elude us. The more we seek to give happiness to others,
> the more we will experience it in our own lives.
>
>
http://www.wildmind.org/blogs/on-practice/thurman-interconnectedness-compassion
>
>
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