Marsha (Magnus mentioned) --

And don't you think properties like weight, atomic number,
color and temperature are patterns of thought?  It seems
to me conceptual thought is responsible for the patterns of
value that defined and maintain these properties.

[Craig]:
I see it the other way. Biological patterns emerge from the inorganic; social from the biological & intellectual from
the social.  Burgundy is deeper than pink, but the concept
of 'burgundy' is not deeper than the concept of 'pink'.

[Marsha]:
I can see it that way too but, it's based on analogy
which is conceptual.  I think the MOQ is a worldview
that is much better than a distinct mind/matter split. ... I have no desire to change your view. I'm trying to get myself, maybe with your help, and the help of others,
to dig deeper.

You've gone beyond the "poetic" to the "intuitive" stage, Marsha. Now you're thinking like a philosopher. So is Magnus, incidentally. You're both beginning to realize that existence is experiential, that objective reality is a conceptual phenomenon.

Keep up the good work!

--Ham


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