On Wednesday 11 June 2008 8:45 PM Matt writes to Ron: Hey Ron, Ron said: Which was what all the fuss was about with Bo, it rendered SOL Superfluous. Some think I am full of it, but as of yet no one Is able to demonstrate why they think that, but it does open Up dynamic dialog without conflicting with the in-definability Of the concrete aspect of Dynamic Quality. It explains a lot and brings us together. What disappointed me Was Bo could talk a good game but he couldn't demonstrate A damn thing. Matt: Ya' know, the thing that annoyed me most about Bo was his "no one has demonstrated I'm wrong" way of talking. If you think you are taking up a similar mantle as Bo's (though I might be mistaken), I would leave that particular legacy by the wayside. Why are people so concerned with "demonstration"? The first question you must confront, I would think, is "what would this demonstration look like?" Doing that would cause an articulation of criteria, and in doing that you open yourself up to a discussion of why those criteria and not others. Philosophy is that peculiar act in which criteria and criteria-for-what are all, largely, in the air at the same time. (And, dare I add, the notion of "demonstration" is one that Plato leaned heavily on in his differentiation between rhetoric and dialectic, in the difference between opinion and knowledge, doxa and episteme, opinio and scientia.) Calls for demonstration are cheap, as one is usually allowed, after the challenge is taken up, to wiggle out (because of one's own various rebuttals). If they came attached with criteria, they'd at least be more conducive to continuing the conversation because people would at least know ahead of time what the rules of the game were (though in philosophy, you're always allowed to change them, even mid-game somtimes--unlike, say, primary politics (or so we had thought)). Matt Hi Mat, Ron, and all,
The thing that most impressed me about Bo was the depth and excitement of his vision, and how he communicated it. I went to the archives in May when Bo was on the list. From May 1st to May 18 (when he wrote Swan Song) 616 posts. From May 18 to may 31, 168 posts. The average for May showed that while Bo was posting 32 posts per day. After Bo left 14 per day on average. He was full of life and exciting, and I dearly miss him. Joe On 6/11/08 8:45 PM, "Matt Kundert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Ron, > > Ron said: > Which was what all the fuss was about with Bo, it rendered SOL Superfluous. > Some think I am full of it, but as of yet no one Is able to demonstrate why > they think that, but it does open Up dynamic dialog without conflicting with > the in-definability Of the concrete aspect of Dynamic Quality. It explains a > lot and brings us together. What disappointed me Was Bo could talk a good game > but he couldn't demonstrate A damn thing. > > Matt: > Ya' know, the thing that annoyed me most about Bo was his "no one has > demonstrated I'm wrong" way of talking. If you think you are taking up a > similar mantle as Bo's (though I might be mistaken), I would leave that > particular legacy by the wayside. > > Why are people so concerned with "demonstration"? The first question you must > confront, I would think, is "what would this demonstration look like?" Doing > that would cause an articulation of criteria, and in doing that you open > yourself up to a discussion of why those criteria and not others. Philosophy > is that peculiar act in which criteria and criteria-for-what are all, largely, > in the air at the same time. (And, dare I add, the notion of "demonstration" > is one that Plato leaned heavily on in his differentiation between rhetoric > and dialectic, in the difference between opinion and knowledge, doxa and > episteme, opinio and scientia.) > > Calls for demonstration are cheap, as one is usually allowed, after the > challenge is taken up, to wiggle out (because of one's own various rebuttals). > If they came attached with criteria, they'd at least be more conducive to > continuing the conversation because people would at least know ahead of time > what the rules of the game were (though in philosophy, you're always allowed > to change them, even mid-game somtimes--unlike, say, primary politics (or so > we had thought)). > > Matt > > _________________________________________________________________ > Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. > http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_sk > ydrive_062008 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
