Hey Ron, Ron said: Which was what all the fuss was about with Bo, it rendered SOL Superfluous. Some think I am full of it, but as of yet no one Is able to demonstrate why they think that, but it does open Up dynamic dialog without conflicting with the in-definability Of the concrete aspect of Dynamic Quality. It explains a lot and brings us together. What disappointed me Was Bo could talk a good game but he couldn't demonstrate A damn thing.
Matt: Ya' know, the thing that annoyed me most about Bo was his "no one has demonstrated I'm wrong" way of talking. If you think you are taking up a similar mantle as Bo's (though I might be mistaken), I would leave that particular legacy by the wayside. Why are people so concerned with "demonstration"? The first question you must confront, I would think, is "what would this demonstration look like?" Doing that would cause an articulation of criteria, and in doing that you open yourself up to a discussion of why those criteria and not others. Philosophy is that peculiar act in which criteria and criteria-for-what are all, largely, in the air at the same time. (And, dare I add, the notion of "demonstration" is one that Plato leaned heavily on in his differentiation between rhetoric and dialectic, in the difference between opinion and knowledge, doxa and episteme, opinio and scientia.) Calls for demonstration are cheap, as one is usually allowed, after the challenge is taken up, to wiggle out (because of one's own various rebuttals). If they came attached with criteria, they'd at least be more conducive to continuing the conversation because people would at least know ahead of time what the rules of the game were (though in philosophy, you're always allowed to change them, even mid-game somtimes--unlike, say, primary politics (or so we had thought)). Matt _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
