Chris:
I myself tend to discard the symbol manipulation
explanation because of
the - as I  see it - quite obvious reason that this is not
in conflict with
anything. The MOQ is a moral order, as we all know, and the
different levels
have more or less competing "views" on Quality
and how to follow it. Thus I
am inclined to thing along the paths of
"What is not by it's _fundamental nature_ in
service of either the
inorganic, the biological or the social level?"


SA: What do you mean here by discarding symbol manipulation due to it not "in conflict with anything"? For then this "conflict with anything" might also be revealing to >what you mean even further, if you could explain further, thanks.

Hello SA

Well, to keep is simple - Quality for the biological level is life. Quality for the social level is social structures. They may come in conflict. And they do.

Symbol manipulation is never in conflict with anything, but may be in service of any level. The pursuit of knowledge may be in conflict with, most notably, the social level, and perhaps even the biological level.

Different PoV values different things. They must to be identified as distinct patterns of value, and thus Symbol manipulation can't constitute the fundamental nature of a PoV.

//Christoffer
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