[Chris]
We both know that a real communist society never have existed, so to talk
about any kind of "Record" for theories that never has been is pointless.
[Craig]
On the contrary, there have been plenty of real communist societies. They
have not been very large or long-lasting because, ironically, they're not
very
profitable.
[Chris]
You are totally missing the point again I see. Even if one tries to build a
small scale communist society in todays capitalist world, it won't work -
todays world is based on social level values (profit) and so if you don't
(like Marx said) remodell the WHOLE of how society is built up and make it
based on intellectual value instead, then of course it won't work. Then
social value will swoop in and kill it of - like the church would swoop in
and kill Galileo.
[Chris)
The point is that the progress that can be made in a capitalist (social
level dominated) society always will be subjugated to what has high or low
social value (I.e what you can make money of)
[Craig]
But what is profitable (= you get more value out than you put in) should be
preferred to what decreases value.
[Chris]
Spoken like a true slave of the social level. Intellectual value should be
preferred before Social value - THAT'S the moral way.
[Chris]
regarding the Romanov's and their
execution - so what?
[Craig]
So what if there was no fair trial? Their children weren't members of the
Young Communist League, after all. And their servents--traitors to the
working class. Your view becomes less moral with each iteration.
[Chris]
Once again missing the point quite brutally. You don't understand the
meaning of historical anachronism do you?
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