Gav said:
...any intellectual pattern we all agree on becomes social! - SCIENCE IS 
PREDOMINANTLY A SOCIAL PATTERN. the intellect is there to guide the 
(individual) will towards DQ. this completes the existentialist ethic, and sits 
well with schopenhauer too.

dmb says:
I gotta disagree there. I don't think science is social or that any 
intellectual pattern becomes social. Some intellectual patterns become a 
mainstream part of the culture, sure, but they don't get demoted for that. That 
just means they're widely known. And science requires all kind of social 
institutions, it needs funding, there are probably plenty of "sell-outs" who do 
it just for the money and it is otherwise dependent on the social level, but 
science itself, doesn't get demoted for all that. Even with all it's flaws, 
science is essentially a formal quest for knowledge based on experience. I 
think that's the basic spirit of the MOQ's intellect too. It is meant to guide 
future experience, but I'm not so sure intellect is the best guide toward DQ. 
You know, they kill it with koans and such cause it gets in the way. 




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