Platt, Chris, Inserted below ...
On 7/30/08, Platt Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [Chris] > > >> Well, I'd start out with the basics. Schooling, Medical care and > > other > > >> basic > > >> needs that people have to have fulfilled in order to all have a chance > > to > > >> develop their intellectual capacity need to be ensured and regulated. > > >> These > > >> things can of course not be allowed to be subject to the social > > pattern > > >> called the free market. > > > > [Platt] > > > I presume you are familiar with Pirsig's comparison of socialism to > > the > > > free market. Also, do you see government regulations as social > > patterns? > > [Chris] > > State the specific comparison you have in mind please. > > "What makes the free-enterprise system superior is that the socialists, > reasoning intelligently and objectively, have inadvertently closed the door > to Dynamic Quality in the buying and selling of things." (Lila, 17) > [IG] And the key word there Platt is "inadvertantly" - meaning they can always learn and change their minds - there is nothing fundamentally wrong with socialists (other than historically having made a mistake - who hasn't ? who learns ?) > [Chris] > > And as Bodvar pointed out before, the patterns are interrelated and are > > pretty much never separated, and so the laws a government makes will be > > social patterns, BUT, the social patterns can be formed by intellectual > > patterns to best suit the intellectual level. > > So an intellectual pattern that forms a free market social pattern would be > OK with you? [IG] Of course, so long as it doesn't forget the intellectual reason for the social pattern, and recognixes the ratchet value of maintaining that social pattern under itself, until intellectual freedom leads it to change it's mind and re-organize it for the better. So long as we simply talk intellectual and social this is easy, but the devil is in the detail if we start to define what precisely intellectual and social are. Ian > > Thanks. > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
