Hi DM, Sorry my answer wasn't clear. "Systems" has existence as an intellectual pattern. Most would consider it a high quality pattern.
Please come back again if still questionable. Platt > Hi Platt > > No, as my first question is about the ontological status of > systems? > > DM > > > >> Platt > >> > >> Is the 'systems of relations' real? > >> Is one system more or less real than all the others systems? > > > > DM: > > According to the MOQ, reality is prior to all "systems," "relations" > and > > other such concepts. > > > > Some patterns of concepts (intellectual patterns) have higher quality > than > > others. > > > > Hope this answers your questions. > > Platt > > > >> DM > >> > >> >> Ron: > >> >> Experience is not the fundamental true reality, but nether can we > >> know > >> >> fundamental true reality in any sort of absolute sense. Therefore > >> what > >> >> is true is dependant upon ones experience. > > >> > > >> > In the Copleston Papers, Pirsig wrote: "The MOQ says experience is > >> > reality. > >> > It doesn't need a system of relations to be real." > >> > > >> > Does this contradict your belief? > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
