> > Platt: > > I take that as a "yes" to my question. > > To follow up, do you agree with > Pirsig? > > "In the third box are the biological patterns: senses of touch, sight > hearing, smell and taste. The Metaphysics of Quality follows the > empirical > tradition here in saying that the senses are the starting point of > reality, > but -- all importantly -- it includes a sense of value. Values are > phenomena. To ignore them is to misread the world." (SODV) > > Ron: > Depends on the way you understand the term value to mean in this > statement, > are we talking biological value, social value, intellectual? value > in terms of a general universal? that's a broad spectrum of meaning > for one term. Value is the process of a complex bonding and decay. > to ignore this process and it's patterns is misreading the world. > To ignore dynamic Quality and cling to the static is to increase > distortion. Static Quality is a distortion of dynamic quality. > > In this way I agree with the statement. Platt: A few questions. A "bonding and decay" of what?
Ron: We can only observe the process so I have no idea of what it actually is in fact I am not able to conceive of it. Platt: Should I not "cling" to the static pattern called "mind?" Ron; when I say cling, I mean not able to let go, when we freely use or not use static patterns we do it for convenience with a broader intent. Platt: How does DQ "distort" what it has created? Ron: Dq does not create, it is. perception of it is a distortion of it. so if we observe the process of patterns and not the form of them we gain a more accurate understanding. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
