okay...i see. well i guess technically speaking everything that has happened or will ever happen happens 'now'. that is the now contains all temporal events. so...in theory it may be possible to travel back/forward in time, in some manner of speaking. i don't think you can get separated from time - the eternal is what encompasses and sustains time - infinite time if you like. to be timeless is to be in eternity - the basic primordial flux devoid of any conceptual differentiation. maybe we visit this dimension in dreams....perhaps thatiis what it feels like to be a time traveller.
--- On Mon, 18/8/08, Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MD] Falling out of Time/Scace > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Monday, 18 August, 2008, 8:30 AM > I was thinking more along the line of becoming actually > disconnected from > space time. You are sounding more like Donnie Darko kind of > unstuck or Adian > Quinn in the Jacket kind of unstuck. I mean what if you > could move your > existence along the temporal dimension like Dr. Who does. > Back and forth. In > time. > > > heya, > > > So conceptually, abstractly how would your perceptions > be > > changed if you > > fell out or became unhinged from time/space in say, a > non a > > priori way? > > > > time is subject to dilation/contraction, depending upon > your state of mind. > when meditating time seems to lose its linear regularity. > two hours can seem > like a lot shorter. same sorta thing with marijuana or acid > - time dilates. > > being 'in the zone' is one name for a non-linear > time experience. when in > the zone' it seems like one has plenty of time - to see > the ball etc. time > is slower for you than for your non-zoned opponent. > > i suppose that extreme meditators get close to a no-time > experience - for > the 'now' is eternal. > > > so i don't think you explode...or if you do it is a > subtle explosion. > > > > How might it affect your flow rate? > > All at once? > > Wouldn't you explode? > > Conceptually speaking of course. > > Krimel > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Gav said: > > time and space are patterns abstracted from > experience, > > like all others. > > they are not a priori categories of perception a la > kant. > > > > in other words time and space, inextricably linked of > > course, are perceptual > > constructs. they are conceptual. > > > > this is why time flows at different rates dependent > upon > > the state of the > > perceiver. 'to see eternity in an hour...' > > > > time is so everything doesn't happen at once. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 18/8/08, Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > I would say that Dr. Who has some of the best > > speculation > > > available on that > > > question. He has been bouncing back and forth > across > > his > > > own time line for > > > what; 30 something years now? Unless I am > mistaken he > > is > > > locked along the > > > same time continuum for some reason of another. > But > > > didn't he skip into > > > another timeline once or twice? > > > > > > STNG did a great episode that was like. the many > > worlds of > > > Worf, once. > > > Worf's of many different quantum worlds > appears at > > > once. I recall that > > > Voyager's from two timelines met and > eventually > > one of > > > the Janeways had to > > > sacrifice her crew and ship to save the other. > > > > > > If I really fell out of time/space I am not sure > if > > > experience would even be > > > sequential. > > > > > > I don't know! Where do you guys think you > would be > > if > > > you fell out of > > > time/space? > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
