Arlo --


Why don't you feed your questions to an e-mail machine that will automatically post them at regular intervals? It would save you the effort of retyping them.

Yeah, I know you disagree with me. I get that.
What I want is what answers you offer instead.

I gave you the answers "I offer instead" and you called them "gobbledygook". If you won't take philosophy seriously, why bother to communicate with us? No one gets any pleasure from a barrage of insults. Your interest clearly lies in anthropology or paleontology, and not metaphysics. I'm not an authoritative source of such information, nor do I believe it contributes to philosophical insight.

I've repeatedly said that evolutionary timelines and physiological development are not my specialty. This isn't a lie or an evasion of your inquisition; it happens to be the truth. Your questions relate to the phyla of species in a historical context. Most of them are answered in the works of anthropologists. They won't give you a genetic or sociological basis for consciousness, of course, but they do table prehistoric eras during which conscious activities, like rubbing sticks to create fire and establishing social communities, first occurred.

The impasse here is your notion of "consciousness" as manifested behavior -- something exhibited or performed, rather than known subjectively as self-awareness. Like all objectivists, you look for observed evidence in a chronicle of events. Conscious awareness does not meet your needs because it's not an objective phenomenon. I'm describing it subjectively, epistemologically, and logically, from a metaphysical viewpoint. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. By that analogy, Arlo doesn't even know what water is.

I've shown you why your mechanistic theory doesn't hold water, and provided a metaphysical alternative that you reject without consideration. My thesis is certainly no more "Poof!" than your "mythos" of collective consciousness. So, what's the point of further discussion, apart from rebuffing your creative insults? You've used the word "stupid" to describe your reality perspective. I'd say it's the outcome of being stubborn as a kicking mule. Now THERE's an animal you can readily identify with!

Thanks for the time, Arlo.

--Ham
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