[SA]
Good work Arlo. Ham made assertions. They were HIS. Now, as you say, if he only could be able to answer some questions about HIS assertions this "would have ended back then".

[Arlo]
Ham and Platt both want to be theists without being known as theists. Well, maybe Ham is a little less concerned about being recognized as such, since he did say "consciousness is a gift from on high". And when I asked him how it came to be that successive generations of primates ended up with a "more evolved consciousness", why did "on high" bestow an inferior consciousness on early primates, Ham snapped "ask him! [meaning "God"]".

So Ham is just funny to see flail around pretending to be "metaphysical" when his thesis is simple theism (as I said, he replaced "Yahweh" with "Essence" and made the Bible far less readable). And the humor is that its a poorly constructed theism at that. He can't even answer simple questions about his own claims. But as funny as that is, it really doesn't concern me (other than its dishonesty) since Ham admits upfront to be "not the MOQ".

Platt's theistic revision of the MOQ is far worse, since in pretending he is not a theist he is trying to turn the MOQ into a theist account "through the backdoor". Even when Ham tells Platt that his theistic views have no place in the MOQ (Ham is smart enough to see this), Platt denies it. Why Platt refuses to be honest about his "Qualigod" and just embrace it outright, I don't know. You know, if I asked my same two questions ("what changed?" and "how does consciousness evolve?") to my local priest, he would be adamant and vocal about his theistic views. Platt prefers mocking others ("oops") but then hiding his theistic account ("Abracadabra! Poof!") behind a veil of evasion and dishonesty.

When Ham accuses me of just being too dumb to understand his brilliant thesis, I just laugh. Its deceptive rhetoric, but I just don't care. Platt, though, shames us all when he, as someone who claims to support the MOQ, engages in blatant and willful dishonesty. How can someone who claims to be so interested in "values" so shameless engage in blatant dishonesty here? I wish to "God" he'd reflect on that, but that appears to be wishful thinking.


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