Hi Peter,

Of course body and mind are intricately related. We are organic beings. We are
awash in organic sensations from the moment of conception on. No one, lest of
all me denies this. What I am saying, and all I can refer to here are the
people I've know who'v dealt with this in their lives, is that realizing that
the act perpetuated against the body only becomes perpetuated against the mind
if it is allowed to do so. No one denies that rape, or torture, leaves a
lasting impact. But my point here is that this impact is validated, not
alleviated, by a culture that erroneously turns the "body" into the "person".
Consider what a Buddhist Monk might say as Ron's pal Bubba is about to rape
him. Perhaps, "what you do to this body you do not do to me". We may be far
from this enlightened ourselves, but I think the "power of destruction" Ron
gives the attacker is one WE give the attacker. And I can only fall back on the
people I've known who've gone through this to confirm that is how they
understand it. 

Again, if you are agreeing that there is a "real self" behind all those
avatars, can you tell me what you think that "real self" is? What are its
characteristics? How would you determine which is "real", Arlo in MD or Aenea
in WoW, and why? What about Mark/Julia, which is the "real" self there, and
which is the "avatar"?

Arlo




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