Hi Christoffer
24 Sep. you wrote:
> Perhaps not much to say about the fuzzy stuff, but about the cell
> thing, or the Marxism example, perhaps something of substance can be
> found?
I have read you pep-talk several times, and you are a dear fellow. I
have however operated as an undercover agent for many years trying
to smuggle in the MOQ in various ways, for instance by "reader's
letters" to various newspapers. It's often not possible to start from rock
bottom or use the Quality concept, or even the levels, but there are
lots of ways to apply the MOQ. I can't say it has started an avalanche
and I have lost faith in a mass "conversion", it took SOM several
hundred years from the first quest for eternal principles to Aristotle's
first recognizable S/O, so why should the MOQ fare any better? You
may despise our bickerings and endless discussions, but somehow an
agreed about MOQ must emerge and it takes time, even you may not
live to see it. OK, my sombre remarks aside, keep up your good work.
Bo
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>
>
> > Fellow MOQers, philosophers and internet alter-egos.
> >
> > I feel I must express my discontent, and what sometimes borders on
> > anger towards the MOQ_discuss. The reason for this, you may feel is
> > unjustified, and perhaps it is, but it is a low-quality feeling
> > about the way things are going in general that I will try to explain
> > and then come up with some kind of solution for.
> >
> > I am, as you may know, quite a bit younger than most of you, and at
> > that I am known to my friends as the person who always voices the
> > grandest, seemingly unreachable visions, and who whants things to be
> > done _here_, _now_; and to be done in a grand sort of all in-
> > fashion. In all fairness I submit this basic trait of my persona (I
> > have, sometimes described myself as having the heart of a fanatic,
> > but thankfully not the mind of one) so that you know where I'm
> > coming from when I continue, but I also submit that I from my
> > experience with working with the student union and various
> > administrative university organs I do understand the Value of
> > procedures, to haste slowly, and to get things right ( and indeed I
> > am Swedish, and since that's basically the nature of our entire
> > nation it should come naturally to me one can think ;-] ) - As long
> > as there is a clear vision of the goal - the grander the better -
> > there is no problem in the slow proceedings I feel.
> >
> > The problems arise when the visionaries grow old and tires, and like
> > the revolutionaries of the 60's end up on caf?s in small groups,
> > talking about a revolution among themselves, a revolution they know,
> > deep down, will never happen.
> >
> > The MOQ_discuss, as I see it, is a kind of caf? where philosophers,
> > young and old can get together and discuss their ideas with each
> > other - and that such a place exists is indeed a grand thing.
> >
> > But me, beeing who I am, am not happy with just this. I want to see
> > more. I want to see us pick ourselves up and make the revolution
> > happen! I want to see us be Dynamic, start rolling the snowball etc
> > etc. And I know; a metaphysical shift is an extremely slow process,
> > and I know, it's not that easy. But frankly-
> >
> > I don't care.
> >
> > Most of us believe that the MOQ could be the most important thing
> > since Socrates, and true or not, if we believe that we need to show
> > it to people! We need to do Quality work.
> >
> > If I had the money I would start an Academy, build a MOQ
> > headquarters and start a "Order of the MOQ" (and insist everybody
> > wore silly moustaches or something like that) - or something (yes,
> > yes I know it's static and all that, but it's just tools, and we
> > need tools)!
> >
> > Now: to the somewhat more concrete part:
> >
> > I have gotten a few people to pick up "Lila" by speaking to them
> > about Marxism and the MOQ in connection, people have found the
> > connection quite interesting and have wanted to explore the matter
> > for themselves: a Good hard example of how things gain much better
> > clarity through a MOQ view, and that does get people interested.
> >
> > Finaly: I urge you all to be visionaries and na?ve with me. Start
> > preaching more (I know you used to) and as for not becoming to
> > static just hanging around the MOQ_discuss: we don't need
> > conferences - invite people over for gatherings, create your own
> > MOQ-cell and once in a while maybe we can all get together and talk
> > MOQ over a beer in real life - so to speak.
> >
> > In fact - even though I only live in a small student room at the
> > moment, my door is allways open to any of you who whish to come by:
> > and if I create a small MOQ-cell here perhaps you would feel that a
> > visit to Sweden could be combined with socializing with a few
> > Swedish MOQers.
> >
> > So, this voicing of frustration turned into a plan, and I hope it
> > sounds as good to all of you as it does to me lying here at the
> > beach by the Mediterranean:
> >
> > Create our own MOQ-cells, and we have taken one more step towards
> > spreading a Quality point of view.
> >
> >
> > Have to go, will check in tomorrow
> >
> > Have a Good one
> >
> > Chris
>
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