Marsha:
> Maybe it not a problem for everybody.  I'm using
> Eudora.  But don't 
> moan, I said I did go into the MOQ archives and copy them
> into Word.

SA:  It's not so much a sobbing moan, but more a "Ah, Man!  This sucks if I'm 
trying to contribute something and nobody is able to understand my posts.  That 
would really suck."

Marsha:
> I just didn't get to the website.  I'd do
> the same to read 
> Ham's post if I needed to, or Krimel's.

SA:  By the way, the website on the "Fourth Turning" points out that we are 
heading for a crisis.  They are not so much so being prophetic, they are 
historians and they tracked that every fourth generation in this European 
settled turn U.S. culture North America, Europe, and even China, goes through a 
crisis.  The cycle is:  awakening, unraveling, crisis, high.  This cycle 
corresponds with generations.  Each generation plays a part, according to these 
authors that wrote this in the late 1990's, in how this cycle develops.  They 
speak of cultural rhythms that the generations flow with.  Again, they say it 
is not a deterministic model they imply, they at first simply researched the 
different generations back to the Piligrims and some generations of the 
Anglo-Saxons while they were still in Europe.  That book was called 
"Generations".  They then noticed this cycle in the generations corresponding 
with historical events, so, that's when they decide to write
 a book called "Fourth Turning".  They call Generation X, Generation 13, 13 
being the 13 generation that they based this cycle on.  The current generation 
is called Generation Millennium.  This latter generation is actually doing very 
well, they say.  They are a highly social generation, and as the generation 13 
starts to get a new society put together during a crisis this generation 
millennium, as all previous generations of this cycle have done, will 
contribute very highly in patching up society and moving it forward after the 
crisis is over or on it's way out.  Look at this generation millennium with its 
cell phones, texting, emailing, with Twitter.com, Facebook, MySpace, etc... 
they are highly social, building the bonds of this society to emerge in 
solidarity when they are adults.  It's hard to predict any future, so, they are 
just basing this on the same cycle that has happened over and over in this 
culture.  Of course gray areas may exist.  When I
 said I was a late bloomer I was pointing this out because I found it 
interesting that my generation was labeled as apathetic, lazy, slackers, but 
it's only because we slack this culture, we've already awakened and started to 
live something different than this culture.  We've pragmatically worked in this 
culture and we see the problems first hand.  By late bloomer, I found it 
interesting to see this coincide with what my generation is thought as, and I'm 
saying nobody has seen anything yet.  We're just reaching mid-age.  If you go 
on that website you can find when you we're born and see what they have to say 
about your generation and what they are like (decided by what your generation 
has done).  Again, we may find reflections in all of these generations in 
ourselves, but it was an interesting point of view that reminded that we do 
have generations here.

SA 




      
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