gav,
  
    I agree, but even moral laws based on the levels and generative values 
may to the one going down with the ship seem harmful but that is they 
trying to hold their power and control of values that no longer hold ground 
as dynamic quality emerges.  All is quality, some more moral than others and 
thus 
the struggle is amidst us.

woods


----- Original Message ----
From: gav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 7:06:17 PM
Subject: [MD] moq morality basic

everyone is good, everything is good, by (moq) definition. even when people are 
bad, stupid, evil, it is still good: it is exactly as it should be, the 
negative face of quality pushes us towards quality.

it is the loss of faith in each other that has driven us towards the precipice 
in the first place. namaste: remember that whomever you talk to is divine, 
essentially perfect and is there to teach you and learn from you...and have fun.

god i am a sententious bastard aren't i?


--- On Sat, 11/10/08, Andre Broersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Andre Broersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MD]  Federal Reserve Unconstitutional
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: Saturday, 11 October, 2008, 3:42 AM
> Hello Woods,
> 
> Just in the middel of watching this video.....I could not
> go on. I am
> flabbergasted, shocked and at a loss for words. Don't
> get me wrong, I know
> how far people can fall. But this proves my earlier post
> about the
> psychological make up of these people who are concocting
> all these ideas
> within a mental world of their own!!
> Do not blame everything on SOM thinking...these people work
> outside
> everything so long as it satifies their own desire which
> really is greed.
> 
> Not really wanting to put too fine a point on it but this
> "great" America
> hasn't seen, heard or felt the last of it yet and I am
> absolutely certain
> you know what I am talking about.
> 
> Thanks Woods for drawing my attention to this. I am in the
> process of
> recovering.
> Latest reports from 'my'  country, Holland, is that
> people see their savings
> "evaporate" . I just hope that when I return I
> have a little of my savings
> left which isn't much so I can't lose much and am
> not worried.
> 
> Why this concern for the man with the axe in Norway???!!!
> 
> It's the white collar guys, the ferrari's, the
> rolls royces.,the double
> story houses, the tinted windows, the swimming pools. The
> tons of butter and
> wine we have.
> Why pick on the poor bloke with the faulty muffler or the
> one with the
> scruffy shit on.
> The quality stuff that is deliberately held back because
> the time is not
> right economically ( meaning we cannot optimally grab our
> profits from
> this).
> This really is a low quality time and I agree with Pirsig
> that we should not
> assume that every human being is born "good" .
> This is naive and he is
> correct.
> But I do think that there are more good people walking
> around on this
> planet than bad people who are ,in their self righteous.
> fucked up selfish
> fucking biologically based patterns of greed dictating the
> subsistence
> levels of millions of people.
> Africa is starving once again!!!
> It is a tragedy 1000 times worse than 9/11. Shame shame
> shame!!!
> 
> I really think that Pirsig has given us a rational,
> intellectual, moral
> argument to be absolutely ruthless in our condemnation of
> this behaviour
> and  way of thinking. Just to say that "He thinks in
> SOM patterns and
> therefore didn't know better" is no excuse and
> reminds me of this one "Wir
> haben es nicht gewust"!! Fucking bullshit!!!
> 
> I am getting too worked up and should go to sleep...it is
> late. Woods I do
> thank you. You have confirmed things for me.
> 
> Andre
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