free will

--- On Sat, 11/10/08, Woods Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Woods Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MD] moq morality basic
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: Saturday, 11 October, 2008, 10:29 AM
> gav,
>   
>     I agree, but even moral laws based on the levels and
> generative values 
> may to the one going down with the ship seem harmful but
> that is they 
> trying to hold their power and control of values that no
> longer hold ground 
> as dynamic quality emerges.  All is quality, some more
> moral than others and thus 
> the struggle is amidst us.
> 
> woods
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: gav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 7:06:17 PM
> Subject: [MD] moq morality basic
> 
> everyone is good, everything is good, by (moq) definition.
> even when people are bad, stupid, evil, it is still good: it
> is exactly as it should be, the negative face of quality
> pushes us towards quality.
> 
> it is the loss of faith in each other that has driven us
> towards the precipice in the first place. namaste: remember
> that whomever you talk to is divine, essentially perfect and
> is there to teach you and learn from you...and have fun.
> 
> god i am a sententious bastard aren't i?
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 11/10/08, Andre Broersen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Andre Broersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [MD]  Federal Reserve Unconstitutional
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Received: Saturday, 11 October, 2008, 3:42 AM
> > Hello Woods,
> > 
> > Just in the middel of watching this video.....I could
> not
> > go on. I am
> > flabbergasted, shocked and at a loss for words.
> Don't
> > get me wrong, I know
> > how far people can fall. But this proves my earlier
> post
> > about the
> > psychological make up of these people who are
> concocting
> > all these ideas
> > within a mental world of their own!!
> > Do not blame everything on SOM thinking...these people
> work
> > outside
> > everything so long as it satifies their own desire
> which
> > really is greed.
> > 
> > Not really wanting to put too fine a point on it but
> this
> > "great" America
> > hasn't seen, heard or felt the last of it yet and
> I am
> > absolutely certain
> > you know what I am talking about.
> > 
> > Thanks Woods for drawing my attention to this. I am in
> the
> > process of
> > recovering.
> > Latest reports from 'my'  country, Holland, is
> that
> > people see their savings
> > "evaporate" . I just hope that when I return
> I
> > have a little of my savings
> > left which isn't much so I can't lose much and
> am
> > not worried.
> > 
> > Why this concern for the man with the axe in
> Norway???!!!
> > 
> > It's the white collar guys, the ferrari's, the
> > rolls royces.,the double
> > story houses, the tinted windows, the swimming pools.
> The
> > tons of butter and
> > wine we have.
> > Why pick on the poor bloke with the faulty muffler or
> the
> > one with the
> > scruffy shit on.
> > The quality stuff that is deliberately held back
> because
> > the time is not
> > right economically ( meaning we cannot optimally grab
> our
> > profits from
> > this).
> > This really is a low quality time and I agree with
> Pirsig
> > that we should not
> > assume that every human being is born "good"
> .
> > This is naive and he is
> > correct.
> > But I do think that there are more good people walking
> > around on this
> > planet than bad people who are ,in their self
> righteous.
> > fucked up selfish
> > fucking biologically based patterns of greed dictating
> the
> > subsistence
> > levels of millions of people.
> > Africa is starving once again!!!
> > It is a tragedy 1000 times worse than 9/11. Shame
> shame
> > shame!!!
> > 
> > I really think that Pirsig has given us a rational,
> > intellectual, moral
> > argument to be absolutely ruthless in our condemnation
> of
> > this behaviour
> > and  way of thinking. Just to say that "He thinks
> in
> > SOM patterns and
> > therefore didn't know better" is no excuse
> and
> > reminds me of this one "Wir
> > haben es nicht gewust"!! Fucking bullshit!!!
> > 
> > I am getting too worked up and should go to sleep...it
> is
> > late. Woods I do
> > thank you. You have confirmed things for me.
> > 
> > Andre
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