dearest platt, > > I don't see Bonzo the monkey looking for the best spot > in zoo to admire a > sunset or listening to Rachmaniov's 2nd Piano Concerto. > As for david suzuki > is that somebody's name? You would never know by the > way its written > without initial caps. Finally, do you think all emotions > biological > patterns? >
well you obviously have never been to a zoo, or maybe you are just not very observant. heard of jane goodall? the lady that lives with the chimps....maybe this might help you....and yes she is a person. and plants have an aesthetic and physiological response to classical music generally. they grow faster and are stronger and are more disease resistant than control plants that are not exposed to music. rock music interestingly creates an aversion response....the plants grow away from the speakers!!! emotions all have a biological aspect, they also have a psychological aspect and there is a feedback loop linking the two. so what did you think of David Suzuki's lecture on growth and sustainability?...to get back on topic > > > --- On Mon, 20/10/08, Platt Holden > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: Platt Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] growth and sustainability > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Received: Monday, 20 October, 2008, 3:53 AM > > > > > > > > >> > Dear Chris: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Do you are think all feelings > (emotions) > > > are biological? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks. > > > > >> > Platt > > > > > > > > > > [Chris] > > > > >> No, not all emotions are of the > biological > > > level, though they all need > > > > >> the > > > > >> biological level, and of course > the levels > > > are overlapping and > > > > >> interrelated. But I do think that > greed could > > > be seen as a biological > > > > >> pattern, the basic drive for > survival is > > > greatly benefited by it. But > > > > >> when > > > > >> the social level comes along, it is > important > > > that it (the social > > > > level) > > > > >> can > > > > >> get this under control. Similarly > it would > > > seem to be the > > > > intellectual > > > > >> levels mission to, when reshaping > social > > > structures, to direct this > > > > drive > > > > >> at > > > > >> something intellectually Good. > Ideally > > > though, the MOQ will show the > > > > need > > > > >> for balance, because of course the > > > intellectual level cannot build > > > > only > > > > >> for > > > > >> intellectual Good, that has been > the problem > > > before, there must be a > > > > MOQ > > > > >> perspective. > > > > > > > > [Platt] > > > > > What emotions do you think are NOT of > the > > > biological level? Pirsig > > > > wrote: > > > > > "The MOQ sees emotions as a > biological > > > response to quality and not the > > > > > same > > > > > thing as quality. There are many > cases, > > > particularly in economic > > > > activity > > > > > where values occur without any > emotion." > > > (LS, Note 141) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > I don't know - what's your point? > > > > > > That all emotions are biological patterns with > one > > > exception -- the > > > aesthetic response -- known only to man.. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
