[Craig, previously]> In "For the New Intellectual", Rand blames evil on two 
types of> people:  the "Witch Doctor" who uses faith rather than reason &> 
"Attila" who uses force rather than reason.  For her Marx falls in> the latter 
category.
[Arlo]> Marx's contention would be that slavery is never ended by "reason".> 
Slavery in the south was not overcome by reason, it was overcome by> free men 
standing, violently, to their captors and breaking the> chains by which they 
have been bound.
Yes, Rand would agree.  She is against the INITIATION of force, notforce used 
in self-defense or retaliation.
[Arlo]> In the interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzGFytGBDN8), Rand> 
does not draw a distinction between "Witch Doctors" and other> "religion". 
"Witch Doctor" is her metaphor for anyone who prefers faith to reason.I will 
see "Religiulous".  Maher, Rand, Marx, Dawkins,Pete Stark (local Representative 
who is the only avowed atheistin Congress = safe seat)—the list grows.
[Chris]> In terms of the MOQ what Marx and Engels did was to create a social> 
pattern to harbour their intellectual values.> With that, as with everything, 
there is always the danger that the> social pattern continues to work even when 
the intellectual values> and ideas disappear.
The danger I see is that people are forced to live under intellectualvalues 
that aren’t theirs.Craig 
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