Andre: [Platt] > Yeah, blame Ham or anyone else who doesn't think like you. I'm shocked > and > offended. Quality doesn't get much lower than that. > > Andre: > > Platt, with all due respect, is this the way MoQ thinking suggests that > we > live with eachother and treat eachother?
Andre: With all due respect, just reflecting how you "lived with and treated" Ham. What's sauce for the goose . . . > The thing that strikes me about reading ZMM and Lila is the compassion, > tolerance, respect and empathy the narrator and Phaedrus (as > representing > intellectual patterns of value) feel when experiencing and dealing > with organic- and social patterns of value of which it knows damn well > it's > an integral part. Can you cite evidence of this great compassion, tolerance, respect and empathy of the narrator or Phaedrus? Quotes will do fine. I don't remember either one joining PETA or sanctioning Christian morality. > Nothing of this I saw reflected in Ham's post nor in your comment so it > seems, being protective of his ideas. > > A final observation: I have never been allowed to think like me.My > everyday > experiences were always forced into patterns that had to adhere to the > SOM > logic and interpretation. I have never felt comfortable with this. Me neither. Logic and reason are good tools in the search for Truth, but far from being the only ones. As Wordsworth put it: One impulse from a vernal wood May teach you more of man Of moral evil and of good Than all the sages can. Our fellow contributor, Woods, expresses this view in nearly every post, giving our discussion a much needed viewpoint. > Out comes Pirsig and I do recognise the "lost, subdued part"... the part > which has never been allowed to express itself. And judging from the > sales > of ZMM I am not the only one. This is a relief, but is does take some > getting used to, in terms of expressing and verbalising, after 50 odd > years. > > To hear terms like "segregation" on the basis of race, colour and creed > under the (presumed ) umbrella of MoQ thinking "fills me with the urge > to > defecate". Colorful language. But Ham's point is that "discrimination" has become a dirty word in our politically correct society, even though morality, the theme of Lila, is all about discriminating between this n' that. On the basis of skin color, no: on the basis of character, yes. Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
