Gentlemen may cry peace, peace but there is no peace... I ask not what course others may take; but as for me give me, liberty or give me death. - Patrick Henry
[Krimel] My personal two cents is that this is, bar none, the dumbest thread in MOQ history. -----Original Message----- From: Woods Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MD] Here come the censors ________________________________ From: Woods Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:26:39 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Here come the censors Arlo, If you think I'm freakin' angry! Then your freakin' right! I freakin' CAN'T take people anymore!!!!! PEACE - A freakin' million times over !!!!!!! PEACE PEACE woods ________________________________ From: Woods Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:20:07 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Here come the censors [Woods previously] can I spell it for you or will you still find this to be a paranoid statement, P-E-A-C-E got it? [Arlo] Can you answer this question for me. Please. Just answer it. woods: I have been answering your questions. Sorry I'm not trapped in your logical cage. Arlo: So here is the breakdown, taken to the extreme to dislodge those who would pretend to ride a high horse. (1) The military has nuclear weapons. (2) Because of this, should everyone have the ability to own nuclear weapons? If you answer "no", then we are simply drawing our lines at different points in the field. I draw mine at explosives and weapons designed to destroy targets of any size ranging from cars and houses on up. We can argue about where that line should be, of course, but we start from the vantage of recognizing that there MUST be a line. woods: I'm not talking about this. Ron gets it, thank goodness, because Arlo your first painting me as paranoid black helicopter guy, Red Dawn too many times, and now I pretend to "ride a high horse". This is freakin' ridiculous!!!!!!! Arlo: If you answer "yes", then we are no longer on common ground, and we'll have to agree to disagree. If you think a world where every person can buy and own their own nuclear weapon would be "better", "safer" or "freer" than our present one, then go ahead and make that case. This would be the position of there should be NO LINE. woods: Arlo, instead of everybody having to fit into your paradigm why not consider something else for a change? I said, repeat, once the weapons become so dangerous that most people can not have them, then the weapons are just that - too dangerous for anybody to have them. It's called the power in the hands of the few, thus, the road to tyranny. My call is for peace. Your call is for let's see: Arlo: I say "no". I fully support a "double-standard" that gives only one group (the military) access to these weapons. What do you say? woods: You are saying arm 'em up! Give 'em what they want. Arm up the military industrial complex! Give 'em nukes. Give 'em what they want. Your a war-mongering tyrant it would seem. Socialism where the faith and blind ones give-up their own morality and give it to a designated state to have the power of morality without question and you take morality away from people in general. You question my morality!!! This is spiritual suppression at its' worse, Arlo, step back and take a look at how you are labeling me and coming up with all kinds of way to bash me with labels, upon labels, with your saying of me that I think of black helicopters, watch too much Red Dawn movies all because I call for peace! What the freak is happening! Arlo: As for the charge of paranoia, can you then further explain to me why you feel uneasy with the idea of only our military (some people, but not you) having access to nuclear weapons? woods: Nuclear weapons could destroy this world! Are you freakin' kiddin' me? We need to get rid of these nukes! my goodness, I've now been baffled, what the freak, I'm freakin' fringe for callin' for peace in this forum, I'm freakin' paranoid and am labeled as a black helicopter paranoid and a too much Red Dawn movie watcher, all because I'm callin' for freakin' peace, I'm tired of this forum, I freakin' quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
