Khoo,
It seems to be a Western problem, and as such it
is not a MOQ problem. Once one starts seeing
interrelated, interconnected patterns, subjects
and objects become meaningless. I may be wrong,
but I think Bodvar is stuck in a subject/object frame-of-mind.
We should all prepare some popcorn and watch Dead
Poets Society. It is a great movie.
Marsha
At 09:08 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
Marsha
I recollect one of my favourite moveis Dead Poets Society where John Keating
played by Robbin Williams have his students read the introduction to the
book Understanding Poetry by a fictional Dr. J. Evans Pritchard, Ph. D.,
which describes how to place the quality of a poem on a scale, and rate it
with a number.It would look like if we put all of Art on a scale, we could
reduce Quality to a number. Intellect as SOM would have it dehumanises and
reduces our experience to that of a cold hard rock.
He later has the students stand on his desk as a reminder to look at the
world in a different way, just as Henry David Thoreau intended when he
wrote, "The universe is wider than our views of it"
(*Walden<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden>
*).
I think the Western concept of of SOM only based Intellect is too limiting.
it may seem all persuasive and pervasive now. But even in the Western world,
non-SOM intellect remains a potent force in recession even though with ready
adherents who seek its renewed expression. Some, a number on this list are
too ready to apply their fearsome intellect to the dissection of Quality
into its metaphysics and manipulation on a scale of some absurd kind.
As in the Dead Poets Society, the key to the non-SOM Intellect worldview is
poetic vision; the capacity and ability of artists, whatever their craft and
talent to see the world differently. The hunger for poetic vision, and their
forms of expression only testify to the great emptiness in a worldview
imposed by what we know as Western Subject Object Metaphysics.
'The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and
tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a
butterfly." *Illusions - The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah" *by Richard
Bach - 1977
Best
Khoo Hock Aun
Marsha I recollect one of my favourite moveis
Dead Poets Society where John Keating played by
Robbin Williams have his students read the
introduction to the book Understanding Poetry by
a fictional Dr. J. Evans Pritchard, Ph. D.,
which describes how to place the quality of a
poem on a scale, and rate it with a number.It
would look like if we put all of Art on a scale,
we could reduce Quality to a number. Intellect
as SOM would have it dehumanises and reduces our
experience to that of a cold hard rock. He later
has the students stand on his desk as a reminder
to look at the world in a different way, just as
Henry David Thoreau intended when he wrote, "The
universe is wider than our views of it"
(*Walden<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden>
*). I think the Western concept of of SOM only
based Intellect is too limiting. it may seem all
persuasive and pervasive now. But even in the
Western world, non-SOM intellect remains a
potent force in recession even though with ready
adherents who seek its renewed expression. Some,
a number on this list are too ready to apply
their fearsome intellect to the dissection of
Quality into its metaphysics and manipulation on
a scale of some absurd kind. As in the Dead
Poets Society, the key to the non-SOM Intellect
worldview is poetic vision; the capacity and
ability of artists, whatever their craft and
talent to see the world differently. The hunger
for poetic vision, and their forms of expression
only testify to the great emptiness in a
worldview imposed by what we know as Western
Subject Object Metaphysics. 'The mark of your
ignorance is the depth of your belief in
injustice and tragedy. What the caterpillar
calls the end of the world, the master calls a
butterfly." *Illusions - The Adventures of a
Reluctant Messiah" *by Richard Bach - 1977 Best
Khoo Hock Aun On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM,
MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >
Khoo, > > What do you think? > > Marsha > > > >
At 04:38 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote: > > Greetings
Khoo, >> >> Yes, I think it is intellectual, and
much, much
more. >> Everything-is-connected-to-everything
would make it an ever-changing, >> collection of
interrelated, interconnected, inorganic,
biological, social >> and intellectual, static
patterns of value within a flow of dynamic
quality. >> A piece of marble might be an
inorganic spov, but a Michelangelo's
David? >> Well that is so much more. >> >>
Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 04:21 AM
11/28/2008, you wrote: >> >>> Marsha Is Art:
Painting, Poetry, Sculpture, Theatre, Music and
all these >>> non-SOM stuff intellectual
activity ? Best Regards Khoo Hock Aun On Fri,
Nov >>> 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM, MarshaV
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:28 AM >>>
11/28/2008, you wrote: > > Give me some examples
of patterns you deem >>> "intellectual" yet,
isn't >> S/O-based. >> > > Bo, > > Didn't you
ask and >>> get replies to this question a few
weeks ago? > > > E=mcò > > --- > > >>>
STARDUST > by Kay Ryan > > Stardust is > the
hardest thing > to hold out >>> for. > You
must > make of yourself > a perfect plane-- >
something still > >>> upon which > something
settles-- > something like > sugar grains
on > >>> something like > metal, but with > none
of the chill. > It's hard to >>>
explain. > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > . >
. > > Shoot for the moon. >>> Even if you miss,
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