At 09:31 AM 12/13/2008, you wrote:
Hi Marsha,

[Marsha]
> > > Maybe, but Buddha isn't an entity.

[Platt]
> >What would you say Buddha is? A big self? A hallucination?

[Marsha]
> If I had to guess, I'd say the Buddha is a collection of knowledge.

To me a collection of knowledge would be a library. But I tend to be
literal. For instance, abstract art has no appeal for me.

Not a collection of intellectual patterns, but a wisdom beyond. It is knowledge gleaned from no knowledge. It is the truth realized when something is shown to be false.



[Platt]
> > > >That the individual holds a high place in the Pirsig's philosophy
> is
> > > >evidenced by his writing in ZAMM: "My personal feeling is this is
> how
> > > >further improvement in the world will be done: by individuals
> making
> > > >Quality decisions, and that's all."
> > > >
> > > >What do you think?

[Marsha]
> > > Without defining precisely what the individual is or isn't, I think
> > > 'Three cheers for Quality decisions!!!'

[Platt]
> >Isn't someone like you, me or other human individual needed to make
> Quality
> >decisions in response to Dynamic Quality?

[Marsha]
> An individual, a self, is an ever-changing, collection of
> interrelated and interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and
> intellectual, static patterns of value responding to Dynamic
> Quality.  I wouldn't use the word 'needed'.

Agree. An individual, a self, is no illusion. Your description matches
Pirsig's perfectly."It's possible to see Lila as something much greater
than a customary sociological or anthropological description would have her
be. Lila then becomes a complex ecology of patterns moving toward Dynamic
Quality. Lila individually, herself, is in an evolutionary battle against
the static patterns of her own life." (Lila, 29)

 I think "decisions" presupposes (needs) an individual "decider."

You are correct. I got caught in the lingo tango. I only meant to cheer for the dynamic response.



Always a pleasure, Marsha


Yes, it's a pleasure.


Marsha





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