Platt, Thank you. I enjoy and have learned a lot from the current exchanges. The capitalist, the monopolist specially, (or capitalist class) cannot respond to DQ because he/she is hostage to the inorganic value of, not private property in general, but of private ownership of the means of production. The authentic socialist (read: ethically remolded, motivated proletariat, willing to help liberate all classes to liberate itself ) is open to DQ because he/she is pulled up by high quality social values. His/her economic base is free (not forced by the State or any political party) collective ownership of the means of the production (my toothbrush is mine) and shared surplus value. Then there are high quality socialist values and vision that call to personal and class transcendence). This is theory of course; historical praxis leaves much to be desired. But hope in a genuine ethical socialism is alive. As the Master put it: The Kingdom is among you. is in you.
May Yahweh bless you and keep you! May Yahweh let his face shine on you, and be gracious to you! May Yahweh look kindly on you, and give you his peace! (Num. 6:24-26) --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Platt Holden <[email protected]> wrote: From: Platt Holden <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MD] Reap the whirlwind To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 10:44 PM Paco, Welcome. Capitalism (free markets) is an economic philosophy built upon the principles of individualism (personal liberty) and private property as opposed to socialism (central planning) based on group identities and collective ownership. It's the former, not the latter, that encourages responses to DQ. Looking forward to your thoughts on this and other subjects. Platt > I think that the problem is that advocates of capitalism and so-called > socialism that collapsed but is still existing in China ("socialism" that > is socialist in form but capitalist in essence, really) fail to > realize that it is the people that are the principal bearers, the > channels, of Dynamic Quality. (Defintely not any political party.) > > Paco (Albano) > Newly enrolled. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
