Paco, [Paco] > The capitalist, the monopolist specially, (or capitalist class) cannot > respond to DQ because he/she is hostage to the inorganic value of, not > private property in general, but of private ownership of the means of > production.
Could you explain how private ownership of the means of production is an inorganic value like atoms, chemicals, gravity, etc.? > The authentic socialist (read: ethically remolded, motivated > proletariat, willing to help liberate all classes to liberate itself ) is > open to DQ because he/she is pulled up by high quality social values. > His/her economic base is free (not forced by the State or any political > party) collective ownership of the means of the production (my toothbrush > is mine) and shared surplus value. Then there are high quality socialist > values and vision that call to personal and class transcendence). This is > theory of course; historical praxis leaves much to be desired. But hope in > a genuine ethical socialism is alive. Could you explain how your ideal society is different from a hippie commune? > As the Master put it: The Kingdom is > among you. is in you. Agree. Art is a reflection of the spirit (light) within us. Platt > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Platt Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > Paco, > > Welcome. > > Capitalism (free markets) is an economic philosophy built upon the > principles of individualism (personal liberty) and private property as > opposed to socialism (central planning) based on group identities and > collective ownership. It's the former, not the latter, that encourages > responses to DQ. > > Looking forward to your thoughts on this and other subjects. > > Platt > > > > > I think that the problem is that advocates of capitalism and so-called > > socialism that collapsed but is still existing in China > ("socialism" that > > is socialist in form but capitalist in essence, really) fail to > > realize that it is the people that are the principal bearers, the > > channels, of Dynamic Quality. (Defintely not any political party.) > > > > Paco (Albano) > > Newly enrolled. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
