[Bo] In Homer's "Iliad" for instance you won't find any references to awareness, thoughts, ideas, my opinion ...and such, it's all emotions, about fury and courage and semi-gods with fantastic qualities, but these aren't said to me supernatural, this hasn't yet come to be.
[Krimel] The first line of the Iliad reads as follows: "Sing, O goddess, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans." Sounds a lot like a story about the emotional state of a particular individual. "Agamemnon rose in anger. His heart was black with rage, and his eyes flashed fire as he scowled on Calchas and said, "Seer of evil, you never yet prophesied smooth things concerning me, but have ever loved to foretell that which was evil. You have brought me neither comfort nor performance; and now you come seeing among Danaans, and saying that Apollo has plagued us because I would not take a ransom for this girl, the daughter of Chryses." Does this sound like the words of someone who does not have a sense of himself? I really don't even like the Iliad and fortunately did not have to dig to find this stuff. It's on the first page. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
