Steve said to Ham:...You can accept it and see where it takes you, or you can leave it be. This forum is concerned with seeing where this intellectual postulate takes us. If you are unwilling to accept it for the sake of argument and at least try to understand what Pirsig means by it then your posts will be of little interest to most people here. ...
Ham said:To me this is saying that anyone who does not accept Quality as a monism has no right to criticize it. dmb says:Well, he did use the word "accept". I'll give you that much. But it's also quite obvious that you've unfairly characterized his helpful remarks as some kind of demand for compliance. I mean, how can you fail to notice phrases like, "see where it takes you", "for the sake of argument" and "you can leave it be". He's NOT saying you have no right to criticize. He's saying you've shown no willingness to engage with the actual ideas. He's much nicer than I am about it, but I agree with him entirely. I don't think you've even tried to understand it and in fact 99% of what you do here is try to sell your own stuff, which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so wildly at odds with the MOQ. I mean, don't you pretty much hate everything about it? That's certainly how it looks to me. The name of this thread would be exhibit A. Sorry, but your claim about being genuinely interested in this forum is very, very hard to believe. If you really have read the books and really have sincerely tried to understand, then you have my sympathy. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
