At 03:26 AM 3/8/2009, Ham wrote:

I think you get my point to Marsha. Quality or Value without realization is meaningless. Only a sensible subject can realize value, goodness, or excellence. And these esthetic/moral appraisals are relative not only to the subjective agent but to the objective phenomena by which they are realized. There is no "unrealized value".

Ham,

I'm happy to be a shill for explaining your Essence theory, but don't misrepresent what I say. Many times I have stressed that there is no "without realization". Quality/value is experience/realization. Quality is reality.


Marsha







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