At 02:02 PM 3/8/2009, you wrote:
Earlier today, Bodvar Skutvik posted a Pirsig (ZMM) quote to Andre that would appear to refute my argument against an independent Quality. It was posed in the form of a question::

   ".....that before the beginning of the earth, before the sun
   and the stars were formed, before the primal generation of
   anything, Quality existed. Sitting there, having no mass of
   its own, no energy of its own, not in anyone's mind
   because there wasn't anyone, not in space because there
   was no space either, not anywhere...this Quality still
   existed?''

Marsha was quick to point that Bo had misquoted Pirsig. Apparently it was not "Quality" but "the law of Gravity" that was alleged to exist prior to mankind. My own opinion is that neither of these assertions can be true. Quality can't exist without subjective discernment, and a "law" is an axiom or principle intellectualized by man.

Greetings Ham,

Bo clearly stated that he had substituted Quality for the law of Gravity. I thought the way Bo had physically manipulated the dialogue gave the impression of the opposite connotation from that in the book.


Marsha




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