Hello everyone
---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:50:34 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MD] The MoQ, by Jove! > > [ Dan]> 1) there are relationships, processes, distinctions that exist > independently >> of any conceptual patterns of them >> contradicts > >> 2) In this plain of understanding static patterns of value are divided into> >> four systems: inorganic patterns, biological patterns, social patterns and> >> intellectual patterns. They are exhaustive. That's all there are. If you> >> construct an encyclopedia of four topics-Inorganic, Biological, Social and> >> Intellectual-nothing is left out. No "thing," that is. Only Dynamic >> Quality,> which cannot be described in any encyclopedia, is absent." [LILA] > How can 1) contradict 2) when 1) talks about conceptual patterns & > 2) doesn't? Dan: I see you've kind of butchered the 1) quote above which makes what you're asking ambiguous at best. If I remember correctly, Krimel said he thinks that there are relationships, processes, ect. that lay outside conceptual patterns of those relationships, processes, etc. I think it is possible, yes, but a moot point. We will never know unless we can conceptualize what is outside and then it'll no longer be outside. That said, I think it is important to note that there is nothing you or I can talk about that is not a conceptual pattern. Even Dynamic Quality is a conceptual pattern as soon as it has a name. I think that's why zen demands we see for ourselves. We cannot be told of Dynamic Quality without losing that some "thing" that's Dynamic. I see no contradiction. Thank you, Dan _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
